2001 Audi A4 B5 Sequential Transmission 2001 Audi A4 Straight Cut Gears

05-17-201203:43 AM

are at that place any sequential gearboxes for this auto?

05-17-201204:25 AM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

are there any sequential gearboxes for this car?

05-18-201207:05 PM

I only ask since I'one thousand starting the B5 project I want a skillful gearbox to efficiently handle the power and provide accurate shifts and a more reliable platform. I though maybe something like this existed for the B5 S4/RS4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?five=ipC8Ire-cNg

05-xviii-201207:21 PM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

I only ask since I'm starting the B5 projection I want a good gearbox to efficiently handle the power and provide accurate shifts and a more than reliable platform. I though perhaps something like this existed for the B5 S4/RS4.

http://www.youtube.com/spotter?v=ipC8Ire-cNg

Gearbox efficiency has zilch to do with a sequential shifter. Directly cutting gears are required as they are more efficient than helical gears. As far as reliable, in one case built an 01E can be pretty solid, but plan on spending some serious money, which will still exist cheaper compared to a $20k-$30K motorsports gearbox.

05-18-201207:30 PM

Quote Originally Posted past Scotty@Advanced View Post

Gearbox efficiency has nix to do with a sequential shifter. Directly cut gears are required as they are more efficient than helical gears. As far every bit reliable, once built an 01E can exist pretty solid, but program on spending some serious money, which volition still be cheaper compared to a $20k-$30K motorsports gearbox.

Aye I empathise that bit what I ment past efficiency is the shift speed and accuracy. With a high power car a sequential tin be very beneficial to performance. Just await at the way that Z06 upward shifts and downshifts.

05-xviii-201207:35 PM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

Aye I understand that bit what I ment by efficiency is the shift speed and accuracy. With a high power car a sequential can be very beneficial to operation. Simply look at the manner that Z06 upwardly shifts and downshifts.

It's efficiency on the order of a handful of milliseconds in either direction. With enough coin, anything's possible, but on our cars, y'all'll get more speed over a given distance with a built 01E and more engine mods for more power than in dropping thousands and thousands of dollars on a gearbox that'll only relieve you like 100ms on a couple of gear changes over a quarter mile. MUCH better places you tin spend money to shave time off than some flappy paddles.

05-18-201207:45 PM

Advertizing an other 12 to 14 chiliad to your 30k engine...

7k tranny
3.5k shifter box
1k Quaife

Is't a TT, but Par dogbox with SQS seqshift will give you this...

05-18-201209:37 PM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

Yes I understand that fleck what I ment by efficiency is the shift speed and accuracy. With a high ability car a sequential can be very beneficial to performance. Merely look at the mode that Z06 up shifts and downshifts.

A sequential shifter is significantly slower in shift speed when skipping gears. IMHO the three+ thou spent on one can be ameliorate practical elsewhere and go more gain.

05-19-201201:32 AM

Quote Originally Posted by GURUMAN View Post

Ad an other 12 to 14 k to your 30k engine...

7k tranny
iii.5k shifter box
1k Quaife

Is't a TT, but Par dogbox with SQS seqshift will give yous this...

Then this can be used on the B5? It looks amazing, very elementary to use. I love a H design stick shift but there's a reason sequential are used in race cars and that's simplicity and speed which is what I want. The cost though OUCH. My SL55 cost me less than 9k to get into the low 11s (crappy launches, information technology has loftier 10s potential) and it'due south a heavy heavy car and then this is definitely an expensive build.

05-19-201202:57 AM

friend of mine has a sequential in his corrado VR6 turbo's, it's pretty ill shit :-)

05-xix-201205:fifty AM

Even with a LOT of coin (15k+ for a build), 10 dollars put in to power, treatment, and weight reduction will yield a MUCH faster time around a rails than X dollars put in to a fancy gearbox that only takes a few milliseconds off of shift times. Racers apply sequential boxes in conjunction with all those other things to eke as much out of the machine wherever possible.

05-xix-201205:58 AM

Fuck that, who want's to drive a built S4 without a clutch?

05-19-201209:32 AM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

And so this can exist used on the B5? Information technology looks amazing, very simple to use. I love a H pattern stick shift just there's a reason sequential are used in race cars and that'south simplicity and speed which is what I want. The cost though OUCH. My SL55 cost me less than 9k to get into the depression 11s (crappy launches, it has high 10s potential) and it's a heavy heavy motorcar so this is definitely an expensive build.

Add on sequential shifters are neither simple nor fast.

05-19-201210:04 AM

Quote Originally Posted by A62TURBO View Post

Fuck that, who desire's to bulldoze a built S4 without a clutch?

It still has a clutch.

05-xix-201210:05 AM

Quote Originally Posted past somebody5788 View Post

It nevertheless has a clutch.

Yous know what I mean.

05-19-2012x:07 AM

Quote Originally Posted by A62TURBO View Post

Y'all know what I mean.

Sequential gearboxes are simply a different form of switching gears. It's simply like a motorcycle.

05-19-201210:15 AM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

are at that place any sequential gearboxes for this car?

Evidently they be just the average b5 owner doesn't have the coin or "willpower" to drop 15+grand on a dogbox... Do we all secretly want one? probably

05-19-201210:24 AM

My SL55 cost me less than 9k to get into the low 11s (crappy launches, it has high 10s potential) and information technology's a heavy heavy car so this is definitely an expensive build.

Ok but yous've asked for a specific 800 whp, attempt this with a SL55 engine, I dont recall you lot would achieve this without spending 40k

eleven to loftier 10's coul be achieved with stock tranny and 600whp

You have to compare apples to apples

You should start a thread virtually clutches at present, I think nosotros are ready to answer !

05-xix-201210:fifty AM

Quote Originally Posted by 04/01-s4 View Post

Plain they exist just the average b5 owner doesn't take the money or "willpower" to drop xv+grand on a dogbox... Do we all secretly desire one? probably

Dog boxes themselves run from $7-9K excluding the sequential shifter.

05-19-2012eleven:24 AM

Quote Originally Posted past somebody5788 View Post

Sequential gearboxes are just a different form of switching gears. It'south simply similar a motorcycle.

I was under the impression that the SMG's don't apply a transmission clutch but rather an automated ane.

05-19-201204:28 PM

Quote Originally Posted past A62TURBO View Post

I was under the impression that the SMG's don't utilize a manual clutch but rather an automated one.

It really depends on what kind of sequential box your talking about. Sequential in itself does not imply whatsoever item blazon of clutch, nonetheless well-nigh motorsports style of sequential boxes are computer controlled and have an automatic clutch shifted via paddles on the steering bike (a much more advanced SMG BMW used) . Drag race sequential transmissions are shifted with loftier force per unit area air solenoids and may or may not have a clutch. Dragsters don't even take a transmission they merely have a series of clutch disks.

05-19-201210:32 PM

Quote Originally Posted past GURUMAN View Post

Ok but you've asked for a specific 800 whp, try this with a SL55 engine, I dont call up y'all would attain this without spending 40k

11 to high 10's coul exist achieved with stock tranny and 600whp

You lot have to compare apples to apples

You should start a thread nigh clutches at present, I think we are set to answer !

haha no you lot misunderstood I didn't compare the SL to the B5 I was just saying in relation to modification prices that's all ;)

05-xix-2012x:37 PM

Quote Originally Posted by 04/01-s4 View Post

Plain they exist only the average b5 owner doesn't have the coin or "willpower" to driblet xv+k on a dogbox... Do we all secretly want one? probably

ok even though i tend to ignore any negative comments or irrelevant ones I'chiliad curious to know how I offended y'all. I mean the manner y'all talk for example "average S5 owner" or "no 1 is willing" I hateful why don't you call up it'due south possible someone actually wants to, god prevent, do something different. at the end of the day isn't it prissy to see different builds and what not. it'southward not similar this thread is insulting anybody or beingness useless and off topic. if information technology was me and i was offended by a thread id but non visit it and waste matter my fourth dimension because the OP of the thread is obviously an idiot who is asking stupid questions about fictional gearboxes...

05-xix-201210:38 PM

Quote Originally Posted by nthusiastt View Post

thanks for the link

05-xx-201212:30 AM

Quote Originally Posted past cosworthsti View Post

ok even though i tend to ignore any negative comments or irrelevant ones I'g curious to know how I offended you. I mean the way you talk for example "boilerplate S5 possessor" or "no one is willing" I mean why don't you call up it's possible someone actually wants to, god forestall, do something different. at the end of the day isn't it nice to run into different builds and what not. it's non like this thread is insulting anybody or existence useless and off topic. if it was me and i was offended by a thread id simply not visit it and waste my time considering the OP of the thread is patently an idiot who is asking stupid questions about fictional gearboxes...

First things first you lot didn't offend me at all I was just poking fun. Its non s5 its B5, its our cars chassis code. That's part of why yous're getting mixed results on here near your question.

Of form at the finish of the day its awesome to run across new builds and ideas, I'm all about that, that's why I'm here. How long have you had your s4? I'grand not knocking your ideas at all y'all just accept to sympathize there's a reason THIS exists.

http://www.034motorsport.com/chassis...4-p-20003.html

Plainly that's a joke but have you even begun tinkering effectually with your s4? Is this something y'all plan to take a shop do from start to terminate? I'm sure at that place'southward vendors on hither that will gladly take your inquiries if your serious most it. I never said its not possible either I actually said the exact contrary of that. Expert luck anyway.

05-20-201205:08 AM

Quote Originally Posted by 04/01-s4 View Post

Kickoff things first y'all didn't offend me at all I was just poking fun. Its non s5 its B5, its our cars chassis code. That's function of why you're getting mixed results on hither about your question.

Of grade at the end of the day its awesome to run across new builds and ideas, I'chiliad all about that, that'due south why I'thou here. How long have yous had your s4? I'm not knocking your ideas at all yous just have to understand there's a reason THIS exists.

http://www.034motorsport.com/chassis...4-p-20003.html

Patently that's a joke but take you fifty-fifty begun tinkering around with your s4? Is this something you plan to take a shop do from start to finish? I'm sure there's vendors on here that will gladly have your inquiries if your serious virtually it. I never said its non possible either I really said the verbal opposite of that. Skillful luck anyway.

"S5" :D Typo. As for having the B5 S4 I oasis't even bought ane nevertheless so I'm fifty-fifty more behind in the build than you lot think but that's simply the way I like to approach things, assemble the info and the price estimates and what not before going into it, it'south only smarter that way since this isn't going to exist a DD. I don't desire to build this car progressively but rather all at once considering subsequently all information technology's a project automobile and about enjoying in and having fun with it ;)

Now I'thou yet to receive a PM from the owner of that "plow primal" 700whp built motor merely it looks to be a good option and cheaper too. What attracted me to the B5 was the fact that information technology was AWD, was a major sleeper and has alot of potential and isn't too expensive to build considering what you become after you lot're done, a car that can absolutely walk exotics and supercars. I actually saw this video and fell in love with it.

http://world wide web.youtube.com/watch?v=q5xrZ_xqVxY

05-20-201205:43 AM

Quote Originally Posted by 04/01-s4 View Post

First things first you didn't offend me at all I was simply poking fun. Its not s5 its B5, its our cars chassis code. That'southward part of why y'all're getting mixed results on hither about your question.

Of grade at the end of the twenty-four hour period its awesome to see new builds and ideas, I'm all virtually that, that'southward why I'm hither. How long accept you lot had your s4? I'm non knocking your ideas at all you simply accept to sympathise at that place'south a reason THIS exists.

http://www.034motorsport.com/chassis...iv-p-20003.html

Obviously that'south a joke but have you even begun tinkering around with your s4? Is this something you plan to have a shop do from outset to end? I'g certain there's vendors on here that volition gladly take your inquiries if your serious nigh it. I never said its non possible either I really said the verbal opposite of that. Good luck anyway.

By the way cheers for the link on the shift deleter. I can't believe I desire to waste money on a sequential gearbox when I could get that for $1000...............and best of all my wife can modify the diapers in the area the shift lever used to be. Now I tin can talk on prison cell phone, consume or fifty-fifty sleep without having to worry virtually stupid gear changes :D xD

Nice link by the fashion haha I know this is gonna sound bad but for a second, a very cursory 2nd :D, I took it seriously merely after the first 2 sentences I was about to pass out from laughing ;)

05-twenty-201208:xl AM

Quote Originally Posted by A62TURBO View Post

I was nether the impression that the SMG's don't employ a manual clutch but rather an automated 1.

There are some that do but in a B5 I think that it would typically still have the clutch petal and just have the shifter change for quicker shifts. Potentially combined with a hand clutch (it's amazing the kind of shift times you can go on a bike with a manus clutch and sequential gearbox)

05-xx-201212:38 PM

If you can beget to drop money on a sequential tranny you should probably invest in a ameliorate platform from the get go.

05-20-2012ten:55 PM

Quote Originally Posted past bgzs4 View Post

If you can afford to drop money on a sequential tranny you should probably invest in a amend platform from the get go.

...and why is this such a bad platform? In fact I remember information technology's the only platform that's a complete sleeper with this potential. All other cars are either not sleeper and too expensive or too flash or non sleepers.

05-20-201211:xv PM

I like your attitude dude. Fuck all the guys saying you can't or shouldn't. Build the car the way you want it, also its your money, you can practice any you want with it.

05-20-201211:32 PM

cosworth just ignore the mass of sheeple on this lath. Exercise what y'all desire/can. I recollect the questions your asking and the interest your seeking is crawly whether or not you lot can do it doesn't actually matter. It'south a fucking way cooler topic than the mass of "my car squeeks, my window doesn't roll downwardly, my boost tapers off, I've got a clicking racket, my spider hose is annoying, my camber bolt is rusted, what practise I exercise!?!?!?"

05-21-201212:33 AM

I wish you well in this attempt, only please practise some serious research into the stop goal and purpose of this transmission and build. The money yous're going to throw just into the transmission lone, combined with congenital engine and whatnot, you could have a fully congenital 996 which is even faster and lighter. Heck, throw in a few more bones (simply money, correct?) and you have yourself a Ariel Cantlet; a machine that would destroy about anything you could turn the S4 into. Is this just a plaything or serious track beast? Is there a specific racing class yous're trying to accomplish?

05-21-201212:35 AM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

are in that location any sequential gearboxes for this motorcar?

mail service upward pics of your car!

05-21-201209:24 AM

Quote Originally Posted by cosworthsti View Post

...and why is this such a bad platform? In fact I recall it'southward the only platform that'due south a complete sleeper with this potential. All other cars are either not sleeper and as well expensive or too flash or not sleepers.

Lets run into....

Heavy? Cheque
Poor weight distribution? Check
Express powerband? Check

I dearest these cars but let's confront it, not the greatest platform for all out speed. At that place is no such matter as a sleeper on the racetrack, merely cars that are faster than expected. I can understand trying to be different or have a sleeper on the streets. But the racetrack isnt the identify to prove off originality. The point is to be as fast every bit you lot can. A c5 or 996 would make
Much more sense. Yous could have a very built c5 rails car for the price of the $30k engine you are talking about. I guess if you take unlimited money practice any, I'll believe it when I see it.